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		<title>By: KDE 4.1.1 Upadate Checkerboard Problem - Page 4 - openSUSE Forums</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/351/comment-page-1#comment-96742</link>
		<dc:creator>KDE 4.1.1 Upadate Checkerboard Problem - Page 4 - openSUSE Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[...] $ osc meta prj KDE:Qt &#124; grep description &lt;description&gt;This project provides the Qt 4.x.x version that is currently being considered most stable whilebeing reasonably recent. It is a good target to _aggregate or to build against if your particular project or application needs a newer version of Qt. Users are recommended to add this repository if they want to update their Qt.&lt;/description&gt; $ osc meta prj KDE:Qt44 &#124; grep description &lt;description&gt;This repository contains Qt 4.4.x&lt;/description&gt; KDE:Qt has an updated but somehow stable Qt. KDE:Qt44... well, isn&#039;t specified.  If someone still has problems after adding KDE:Qt then there is &lt;em&gt;another&lt;/em&gt; problem. A good bug report would make sense.  The good news are that in the future we will not have this problem -&gt; Duncan Mac-Vicar P. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>[...] $ osc meta prj KDE:Qt | grep description &lt;description&gt;This project provides the Qt 4.x.x version that is currently being considered most stable whilebeing reasonably recent. It is a good target to _aggregate or to build against if your particular project or application needs a newer version of Qt. Users are recommended to add this repository if they want to update their Qt.&lt;/description&gt; $ osc meta prj KDE:Qt44 | grep description &lt;description&gt;This repository contains Qt 4.4.x&lt;/description&gt; KDE:Qt has an updated but somehow stable Qt. KDE:Qt44&#8230; well, isn&#8217;t specified.  If someone still has problems after adding KDE:Qt then there is <em>another</em> problem. A good bug report would make sense.  The good news are that in the future we will not have this problem -&gt; Duncan Mac-Vicar P. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: duncan</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/351/comment-page-1#comment-96735</link>
		<dc:creator>duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marek:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is no need to sign the service list, because the protection happens at the repository side still, so if a service tries to inject a &quot;bad&quot; repo, you will be warned anyway.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;RedDwarf:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While services will be in openSUSE 11.1, We don&#039;t know yet if there will be a service manager in YaST in 11.1.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Johan:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is no need to add the repository permanently using 1 click install. You can deselect &quot;remain subscribed&quot;. You have to add the repo at least during install in case the packages depends on packages in the same repository. Otherwise, you can just use zypper and install the rpm remotely. It will check dependencies and install them, but if those dependencies are in that repo only, it will not succeed.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marek:</p>

<p>There is no need to sign the service list, because the protection happens at the repository side still, so if a service tries to inject a &#8220;bad&#8221; repo, you will be warned anyway.</p>

<p>RedDwarf:</p>

<p>While services will be in openSUSE 11.1, We don&#8217;t know yet if there will be a service manager in YaST in 11.1.</p>

<p>Johan:</p>

<p>There is no need to add the repository permanently using 1 click install. You can deselect &#8220;remain subscribed&#8221;. You have to add the repo at least during install in case the packages depends on packages in the same repository. Otherwise, you can just use zypper and install the rpm remotely. It will check dependencies and install them, but if those dependencies are in that repo only, it will not succeed.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Johan Kotze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Kotze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would it be possible to use the services to build a system whereby you can install software without installing a repository ? I really like the 1-click install, but having to add a complete repo for just 1 package seems to me like a waste of resources. If I want to install package x, the service should just provide me with the locations of the dependancies, not complete repo&#039;s.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be possible to use the services to build a system whereby you can install software without installing a repository ? I really like the 1-click install, but having to add a complete repo for just 1 package seems to me like a waste of resources. If I want to install package x, the service should just provide me with the locations of the dependancies, not complete repo&#8217;s.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Marek Stopka</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/351/comment-page-1#comment-96732</link>
		<dc:creator>Marek Stopka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ok, but some point... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That service repolist on server, can it be signed? You know HTTP and DNS spoofing is a heartless bitch. :-)  Also, maybe in output of zypper repos, there should be visible which repository coming from service and which not.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, but some point&#8230; </p>

<p>That service repolist on server, can it be signed? You know HTTP and DNS spoofing is a heartless bitch. <img src='http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Also, maybe in output of zypper repos, there should be visible which repository coming from service and which not.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RedDwarf</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/351/comment-page-1#comment-96731</link>
		<dc:creator>RedDwarf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Really good. With so fragmented repositories like the ones from OBS we needed this.
This will be integrated on 11.1?
- YaST repository manager modified to a service manager (work for usability guys, sure they hate you).
- 1-Click support for services
- OBS integration
- ...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good. With so fragmented repositories like the ones from OBS we needed this.
This will be integrated on 11.1?
- YaST repository manager modified to a service manager (work for usability guys, sure they hate you).
- 1-Click support for services
- OBS integration
- &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jano</title>
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		<dc:creator>jano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;great ideas these use cases! :O)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;btw, you can use &#039;zypper ls -r&#039; (--with-repos) to show the services with their repos.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great ideas these use cases! :O)</p>

<p>btw, you can use &#8216;zypper ls -r&#8217; (&#8211;with-repos) to show the services with their repos.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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