As to the forums… i think you made the right decision… (even if i’m very impatient to see the new forums…) I too think newbies might be forgotten on the new forums…

but we’ll see about that… anyway… it’s good to have from where to choose!

RC1 looks cool… lets see how the final version behaves

I’m going to try Gobo for sure!!!

It’s sad it won’t go into suse soon… suse is really a great OS… very polished… won’t be easy to get better than suse… but it’s nice to know there is a community around Gobo as well…

Something that has nothing to do whit linux and don’t think, please, I’m joking with you…

it’s just something funny that came into my mind the first time you told me about Gobo… it made me remember a part on the movie “Dukes of Hazzard” where Luke Duke (trying to get a safe bolt free from a tree (i think)) says to Bo Duke: “No Bo, no!!!” trying to make Bo stop pushing whit the car… latter Bo excuses himself by saying it though Luke said “Go Bo, go!!!”.

It’s really a funny part hahaha.

but please: I’m not joking whit you!!!

Anyway, this really ask a testdrive hehehe even not being so polished as suse… KDE makes it already great!!!

Hope to find you on the forum if i need to ask something… it’s very nice to find nice people as you

“I am a big KDE addict even with the added bloat in 4.0.”

Me too!!! but… What bloat???

Man… you really let me exited about GoBo… I’ll try it as soon as I get some spare time… It seems it does (from what you wrote) exactly what i’m asking… but as you said… nothing like try it

“Yes, one would consider a waste of space”

I think there’s not just the space question about the multiple copy of the same files… I think people also talk a lot about conflicts and outdates files that have vulnerabilities and things like that…

Anyway, the GoBo’s new file system seem great!!! It would be great to have this included in Yast for 11.1… something to deal with software “sort of like Windows” in Linux would for sure help newbies not to fear Linux anymore…

and, as you said “the hard core are going to object to it”… but a big part of my work is fixing and maintain networks and computer systems… so I deal everyday with newbies and their questions… I think the “Hard core” needs to stop thinking that everyone knows how a computer works… what is very easy to us… it’s quite difficult to them (the other day i passed about 10 min explaining a guy how to save a Word file into a disk – crazy hum?)

but there is also something i have to ask… if i install a software that does not came with GoBo, does it also organizes the software in the same way??? or is all this only for software that cames with the OS???

i’m asking this because such file manager would need to be flexible and not have a static list of software as app-installer has… If i install a software that is not list there… then it will not be showed – this is useless!!!

If your package manager works as i think it works then I truly hope it gets into Suse as soon as possible

I have converted senior citizens over to 10.3 from Windows plus I build shut ins new computers with old parts donated to me and all are loaded with SuSe 10.3. Some I have with GoBo on it but since we are still working on GoBo further perfecting the file system I do not give many to seniors unless they do know something about computers.

The only way is to try GoBo and see how it works. It is not to easy trying to explain exactly what we are attempting to do without one actually trying it. Like anything new one must become accustom to the change in the file structure but since it is all in alphabetical sequence one should not find it to hard.

I’ve tried to “convert” a few friends (and 1 client) to use Linux, but from the few that accepted to try it, this (removing software) was one of their major complaints – too complicated cause they didn’t know what to remove… (at the time they also complaint about installing – which was is solved with the 1-click install, and about the few software there is – which is not Linux’s fault)

so from what i’ve heard easy remove of software is one major missing piece still unsolved

http://www.gobolinux.org/screenshots/screenshots/012DetschManager.png

it seems well organized, but i don’t know if I’m understanding it right…

I don’t know if the idea we’re talking is the same… so I’ve updated the picture i purpose… at this moment (i made this on opensuse 10.2 live, since 10.3 was not accessible where i am), when we search for “Gimp” it will came up whit 3 results… so… my idea was to “group” all this 3 inside one major “Gimp”… this way if we wanted to remove everything related with Gimp… we would just have to select the major one…

I don’t think opensuse 11.0 allow us to do this so easy… (correct me if i’m wrong… i have not testes 11.0 yet)…

As to GoBo Linux… well does this works this way??? or is it this simple???

I can’t understand that from the picture… but if I’m getting it right… it might be…

(the rest of the pictures seem pretty cool too… and it’s KDE )

http://www.gobolinux.org/?page=screenshots

Take a look and let me know what you think.

Back with SuSe 8.1 yes building programs and installing was a pain but as the versions came out this is all getting better with SuSe finding and putting all the pieces together. I have not been having any problems with Beta3 with installing software. Actually with 10.3 it has been fairly easy and I say a newbie should be able to figure this out. One area we are really lacking in is documentation that a newbie would understand but we are improving as I have read some real great tutorials.

Peter