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	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Duncan Mac-Vicar P. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The greatest unknown openSUSE 11.0 package management feature</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96618</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Mac-Vicar P. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The greatest unknown openSUSE 11.0 package management feature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] been reporting in real time cool improvements like the fast installation, how YaST became sexy, how YaST/ZYpp/zypper became fast, how YaST/ZYpp/zypper performs better than others and even that our solver is also really [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been reporting in real time cool improvements like the fast installation, how YaST became sexy, how YaST/ZYpp/zypper became fast, how YaST/ZYpp/zypper performs better than others and even that our solver is also really [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: R. J</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96536</link>
		<dc:creator>R. J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I've been running 11 beta 2, and I have to say I am impressed with the huge increase in speed&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been running 11 beta 2, and I have to say I am impressed with the huge increase in speed</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mahir</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96477</link>
		<dc:creator>mahir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hey dude
nice video
but rather then deleting or backspacing u, do u know u can type ctrl u? to delete backwards from the cursor to the prompt and ctrl w to delete back word by word?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;enjoy linux!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey dude
nice video
but rather then deleting or backspacing u, do u know u can type ctrl u? to delete backwards from the cursor to the prompt and ctrl w to delete back word by word?</p>

<p>enjoy linux!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Surrey Realtor</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96471</link>
		<dc:creator>Surrey Realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I switched from OpenSUSE to Ubuntu because of the horrendous speed (lack of) primarily in the package management. The impressive speedups in libzypp may well lure me back, esp. if Ubuntu bluetooth support keeps lagging. Thanks for the update, cheers!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I switched from OpenSUSE to Ubuntu because of the horrendous speed (lack of) primarily in the package management. The impressive speedups in libzypp may well lure me back, esp. if Ubuntu bluetooth support keeps lagging. Thanks for the update, cheers!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mr Frosti</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96470</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Frosti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I respect the hard work that has gone into improving OpenSuSE's package management speeds. However, I wonder how much of this is reinventing the wheel? The dpkg / apt-get based package management system is quite fast, well supported, and resolves dependencies with a high rate of success. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If the OpenSuSE team is at the point of rewriting zypper and removing "thousands of lines of code", would this have not been a great opportunity to make the switch away from RPM? Perhaps I do not completely understand zypper and am comparing apples and oranges?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Red Hat (http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/04/16/whats-going-on-with-red-hat-desktop-systems-an-update/) suggest that it will not be continuing a consumer based desktop, so that leaves OpenSuSE (and categorically Novell SLED / SLES) as the last big supporter of RPM. Seems like a great time to consolidate packaging as Ian Murdock suggests...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect the hard work that has gone into improving OpenSuSE&#8217;s package management speeds. However, I wonder how much of this is reinventing the wheel? The dpkg / apt-get based package management system is quite fast, well supported, and resolves dependencies with a high rate of success. </p>

<p>If the OpenSuSE team is at the point of rewriting zypper and removing &#8220;thousands of lines of code&#8221;, would this have not been a great opportunity to make the switch away from RPM? Perhaps I do not completely understand zypper and am comparing apples and oranges?</p>

<p>Red Hat (http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/04/16/whats-going-on-with-red-hat-desktop-systems-an-update/) suggest that it will not be continuing a consumer based desktop, so that leaves OpenSuSE (and categorically Novell SLED / SLES) as the last big supporter of RPM. Seems like a great time to consolidate packaging as Ian Murdock suggests&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Duncan Mac-Vicar P. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; openSUSE 11.0 beta</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96429</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Mac-Vicar P. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; openSUSE 11.0 beta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] talked about package management speed, we talked about new looks and features already. However our work around patches and patterns was [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: ingo</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96421</link>
		<dc:creator>ingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;will the new zypper be available for opensuse 10.3 as well?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Duncan Mac-Vicar P. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Package management reloaded II</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96418</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Mac-Vicar P. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Package management reloaded II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] happy with the super speed and making other similar tools eat dust, our hackers continue to check in cool [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Con Ustedes OpenSUSE 11.0 Alpha 3 &#171; Entre geeks te veas</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96417</link>
		<dc:creator>Con Ustedes OpenSUSE 11.0 Alpha 3 &#171; Entre geeks te veas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] sido retrabajado el ZYpp framework, el cual te da un manejo mas eficiente de los paquetes. Esta Release tambien contiene un nuevo y [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: openSUSE 11.0 Alpha 3 &#171; Linux and Open Source Blog</title>
		<link>http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/296#comment-96415</link>
		<dc:creator>openSUSE 11.0 Alpha 3 &#171; Linux and Open Source Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] highlight of course is the reworked ZYpp framework, which gives you a much faster package management experience. This release also contains a new and [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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